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Dylan's avatar

im still not convinced, the woman choosing between her kids and the neighbours kid is too big of a plot hole to just write off as an exception. feels like human nature is an after thought here used to duck tape up some shakey framework rather than sth incorporated into ur moral system. frankly in a utilitarian mindset, you *should* sell urself to organ harvesters. you can't just weasel out of the butt end of a trolley problem like that. you would have pulled that lever on someone else. if human nature suddenly becomes a concern here then maybe you should have included it into the foundations of ur philosophy.

also feels like ur explaining a bunch of moral decisions in post with "see how much happiness would be gained by that decision?" when amounts and distribution are very unclear. it uses the same reasoning for certain when faced with decisions weighing groups of all shapes and sizes. if all of russias glory wasnt based on invading ukraine but invading 1 family's house in finland utilitarianism would posit the same decisionmaking explanations, possibly with the same excuses. greatest amount of happiness is not a useful unit. at the end if the day its some other moral code making decisions here, with utilitarianism showing up afterwards with a smiley face to steal the credit

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Martin Bollis's avatar

I’ve just found your Substack via your comment on Christine Arnade’s post. Some great posts I’ve enjoyed reading them.

I liked the gate analogy in this one but wonder can we ever fully know what the gate is for. You use the example of gay marriage as a harmless gate to open but in another post express some doubts about trans ideology and also how legitimate debates are now shut down with shouts of an ‘ist’ or ‘phobia.’ I’m not drawing a causal line from acceptance of same sex love to extreme trans ideology but every gate we’ve opened, particularly in the field of sexuality, has led to bigger fields and more gates. Not only can that lead to discomfort in a world without any recognisable boundaries, it has come with considerable pressure for those of us happy in our own field to become actively celebratory of all others. It seems to me there is a line where the primary virtue of tolerance passes into something much more coercive. We can’t chat over a gate, we must burn it down. At that point the happiness quotient goes up for some and down for others, which is about power.

When are you getting to Nietzsche?😀

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